Shredded Moose

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:07 am

Remember when that dude Brew came here and posted his comic and basically everyone argued with him that his comic is pretty much reprehensible?

Apparently, it's only gotten worse since then.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:31 am

I am still doing my part to get him to make it better!

Joined: 08 Dec 2005 Posts: 9009 Location: SOMEWHERE EXTREME

I skimmed a few of the recent ones and yeah, still bad, but I did like the one about the mailman.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:06 am

Your Webcomic is Bad and You Should Feel Bad just ripped it to shreds. It's pretty much their first review that hasn't prompted some reader to defend the comic.

Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 1503 Location: old london towne

Going postal is indeed pretty good... I guess that's because it's the only one that doesn't really tell you anything about the personality of the author?

Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 279

I wouldn't say that specific strip is "good" so much as it is "not as offensive to the brain as the rest of the archives." I mean, the joke is just "the postal service is awkward and dated."

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:27 am

It has a swear. That has to count for something.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:32 am

Yeah, if the whole comic was like the mailman one, it would be an OK comic with pretty all right art.

Which would obviously be way better, but then again is mediocrity worse than being really bad? Probably not.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:21 pm

This comic gets my vote for Worst Thing.

Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 279

It's a tough call. I'd say this comic is extremely mediocre, which is a tough place to be because there's nothing memorable enough to make people come back either way. I think the authors either consciously or subconsciously know this, so they try to be as vulgar and graphic as they can to create an identity. This sort of strategy reminds me of a 13 year old who uses more profanity and starts smoking in front of the high school kids to appear more mature.

If a comic is bad, really bad, then it can at least reach Marmaduke or Boston & Shaun levels of infamy, and in these cases the creators are so oblivious to outside criticisms that they'll keep on trucking in their own little world. Mediocrity won't get you any attention at all though, and I think with these guys they'd rather be hated than ignored, which helps explain the "edginess."

Well, either that or they just have no ideas.

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 271 Location: Pacific NW

Aaron D. brings the truth!

These guys sure do seem proud of themselves.

Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 4885 Location: MAN Texas

but then didn't the writer say they were gonna try to improve the writing

which really didn't happen

empty promises

Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 2956 Location: the new board

Unwinder, would you mind if I linked that earlier thread on his blog (probably the nerdiest thing I've ever said)?
There's even more reason to hate this guy than Solomon knows.

Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 3360

i actually really disliked Lilith's review here. as horrible and loathsome as this comic was she just didnt seem to have Ted or Solomon's hatred for its creator -and- subject matter.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:48 pm

CAPTAIN LAZERS wrote:

Unwinder, would you mind if I linked that earlier thread on his blog (probably the nerdiest thing I've ever said)?
There's even more reason to hate this guy than Solomon knows.

Go for it, dude.

Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 5283 Location: Hollywood, CA

CAPTAIN LAZERS wrote:

Unwinder, would you mind if I linked that earlier thread on his blog (probably the nerdiest thing I've ever said)?
There's even more reason to hate this guy than Solomon knows.

I will mind if you don't link it.

Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 5283 Location: Hollywood, CA

http://www.shreddedmoose.com/comic/comic_arc.php?comicID=72

Holy shit. I have to revise my stance on CAD. CAD is mildly bad compared to this comic. This is the particular strip that sapped my will to be snarky about CAD, because I just think to myself, "It could have been so much worse"

Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 137 Location: the briny depths

i hereby motion for a shredded moose avatar month

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 271 Location: Pacific NW

Zach wrote:

i actually really disliked Lilith's review here. as horrible and loathsome as this comic was she just didnt seem to have Ted or Solomon's hatred for its creator -and- subject matter.

I thought the review was pretty bad, also.
A review that is based mostly on outrage doesn't really qualify as valid criticism in my book, even if (as in this case) I agree with the reviewer.

Not to mention that the creators of this comic are clearly the kind of people who thrive on inciting outrage, and will pathetically wear any criticism and accusations they receive as badges of triumph.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:11 pm

Wait, what? It's not valid to criticize something because it's morally reprehensible?

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:06 pm

In this case, it's probably like telling a third-grader to stop doing something because it's annoying. He'll just make even more crappy webcomics.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:12 pm

That doesn't mean that being annoying isn't a valid criticism.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:23 pm

true dat

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:46 pm

Pretty much every webcomics forum I've frequented this week has a thread about how bad this comic is and so everybody goes to this comic and so it seems like a pretty good idea to be dicks I guess.

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:55 pm

We're cooler because we knew it was bad first.

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:00 pm

You're not wrong

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:24 pm

holy god the abortion one actually made me feel sick

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:25 pm

justinpie wrote:

Pretty much every webcomics forum I've frequented this week has a thread about how bad this comic is and so everybody goes to this comic and so it seems like a pretty good idea to be dicks I guess.

Assuming that you can take people who clicked on a "Look how crappy this comic is!" link and turn them into fans, then yup!

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:41 pm

Works for me!

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 271 Location: Pacific NW

Miles wrote:

Wait, what? It's not valid to criticize something because it's morally reprehensible?

I agree with Oscar Wilde that art can be neither moral nor immoral--it can only be well-crafted or poorly-crafted. Of course, that doesn't mean that misogyny isn't immoral, so if we're criticizing the actions of the authors as individuals for being misogynistic, fine. But I'm not interested in the authors or their moral caliber, I'm interested in webcomics, and I was disappointed about how little time the critic spent outlining the exceedingly poor craftsmanship exhibited in this comic, particularly in the writing.