BOOKS THAT MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:29 pm

No, no. It's lesbianism, Shana. Don't argue with me, I'm a public notary. All I say becomes true.

Why does "ass" have such a negative connotation in your language? What have asses done!?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:33 am

shana wrote:

Well, in a sense, that's what guest script writers do...
sometimes it can be good? But mostly it's just ass.

The difference there is that it's author-sanctioned.

And Eidam, asses crap all over everything.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:48 am

Is that a reference to Team America?
RIGHT ON

If it was not,
WRONG OFF

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:55 am

ITS A TRUISM

Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 710

Altruism?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:30 pm

Fan fiction is also a way for people to show their appreciation for something they really like a lot. It lets them interact with characters in a way that they otherwise couldn't. I don't think it's necessarily about exploring other plot lines -- I think it's about trying to identify more strongly with a work of art and exerting some form of ownership over an all-consuming passion. Having said that, I can think of absolutely no reason why anybody would ever want to read fan fiction. Except for the lesbianism, I suppose.

Also, I don't think it's really relevant whether the author sanctions derivative works or not. I think they should be judged on their own merits, regardless of what the original author thought about them. I suspect that the difference between guest scripts and fan fiction is more that guest scripts are written by experienced professional writers and fan fiction is written by obsessed fans who couldn't tell an interesting story if their lives depended on it.

Out-Talled Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 4580

Well, most popular TV series spawn multiple terrible pulp novels that are scarcely better than fan-fiction. Buffy is a prime example (although Pretty Maids All In A Row wasn't too bad).

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:35 am

Man, I'd write fan-fic for Saint Seiya (or Futurama) if they aired it again if I did. And I may take the effort of not adding (a lot of) lesbianism.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:55 am

I agree with Boorishly...

and Eidam, ass is just about the best adjective in the world. Of course it's negative. When it's a noun, then it can be good or bad.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:58 am

Boorishly P. Foundry wrote:

Fan fiction is also a way for people to show their appreciation for something they really like a lot. It lets them interact with characters in a way that they otherwise couldn't. I don't think it's necessarily about exploring other plot lines -- I think it's about trying to identify more strongly with a work of art and exerting some form of ownership over an all-consuming passion. Having said that, I can think of absolutely no reason why anybody would ever want to read fan fiction. Except for the lesbianism, I suppose.

I couldn't agree more.

Boorishly P. Foundry wrote:

I suspect that the difference between guest scripts and fan fiction is more that guest scripts are written by experienced professional writers and fan fiction is written by obsessed fans who couldn't tell an interesting story if their lives depended on it.

Well, maybe it's not (just) that. A guest script is published with the permission and endorsement of the original author: So, essentialy, the creator of the work encourages you to see it in another way, one presented by another person, and in that way that person shares the connection between the writer and his readers.

Fan fiction, however... Well, in my opinion, the person writing it is just doing it for himself: To demonstrate the way he, and he alone, thinks the original work could (or should) be.

Now, that may prove worthwhile, or it may not (and it usually doesn't).
Doesn't matter though, cause fan fiction may just be the only kind of fiction that serves its purpose just by being written; making the writer feel good about himself.

That's why I don't feel like I have to read it!

Anyway, here's a cute ass I had the pleasure of taking a picture of:

His name is Menios!

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:57 pm

super duper girl wrote:

I don't think I understand fan fiction. What's the point?

Don't ask me, mine was a bitter parody! BITTER!

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:22 pm

You've got a nice ass, Faid!

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:35 pm

I know! The trick is all vegetable and fibre diet, and lots of exersise!

An occasional good brushing also helps.

T-Rex - OMG!

-WHAT

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:13 pm

Do you also trim it?

Such a pain to have to look for ticks...

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:55 pm

Does your ass just suddenly poop in public? Do you clean it up?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:00 am

"Youth In Revolt." GOD that book sucked!

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:29 pm

shana wrote:

Do you also trim it?

Such a pain to have to look for ticks...

Well, the poor thing hurts when you take them out, so it's a pain in the ass, mostly...

... You led me right into saying that, didn't you?

Also: I'm sure you realize that "You've got a nice ass, Faid!"-shana now has a 99.99 chance of eventually appearing as a random bottom-page quote...

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:08 pm

TOPIC CHANGE

DYKT Splinter in the Mind's eye is still Star Wars episode 4.5? Not Foster's best work, but it does fit into the continuity.

That, and the Christmas Special, are the most neglected Star Wars triviums around.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:10 am

Christmas Special was pretty solid, all in all. Although I've never seen it, it suffices the need of wookies latent in all the trilogy.

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 974

Books that claim to be fiction, but are actually thinly-veiled philisophical manifestos!

AYN RAND, I'M LOOKING IN YOUR DIRECTION!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:33 am

Chris wrote:

Books that claim to be fiction, but are actually thinly-veiled philisophical manifestos!

ORSON SCOTT CARD, I'M LOOKING IN YOUR DIRECTION!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:35 am

Um... isn't most good fiction kind of like that? Or at least it's pretty common!

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:18 am

Faid wrote:

Well, the poor thing hurts when you take them out, so it's a pain in the ass, mostly...

... You led me right into saying that, didn't you?

Also: I'm sure you realize that "You've got a nice ass, Faid!"-shana now has a 99.99 chance of eventually appearing as a random bottom-page quote...

1. Yes
2. Certainly that's an added bonus! I didn't think of that when I typed it, though I was feeling pretty nefarious!

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 974

Well, I guess my gripe is really the "thinly veiled" part.

And it's one thing if, as in the case of Dostoyevsky, a philosophy reveals itself THROUGH the text.

It's something quite different if, as in the case of Rand, your characters spend the whole book talking about how awesome capitalism is.

Joined: 03 Apr 2005 Posts: 3863 Location: Utah and/or Texas

Chris wrote:

Well, I guess my gripe is really the "thinly veiled" part.

And it's one thing if, as in the case of Dostoyevsky, a philosophy reveals itself THROUGH the text.

It's something quite different if, as in the case of Rand, your characters spend the whole book talking about how awesome capitalism is.

I'm reading the Fountainhead right now.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:52 pm

GAH
AYN RAND
RAGE

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:14 pm

I stole that book, and don't intend to read it.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:13 pm

Anything like Encyclopedia Brown.

The author's pedantic, and/or dead wrong 80% of the time.

The characters are worse.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:18 pm

Those Babysitter Club books totally cheesed me off, man! What kid wants to read retarded stories about girls who babysit?!

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:09 pm

shana wrote:

Those Babysitter Club books totally cheesed me off, man! What kid wants to read retarded stories about girls who babysit?!

LETS CALL THEM "BS CLUB BOOKS"
BS STANDS FOR BABYSITTER DUDE