Drawings from life (and other references)

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1065

I don't know I guess he's really talented but I find him a little dated
I mean in a classy way but it's definitely really stylized which is of course valid but probably not the best way to learn figure anatomy
kind of like studying "how to draw manga" books to learn how to draw

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1587

golly travis :)

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1065

how do you type the noise the adults make in the peanuts cartoons because that is also an appropriate way to read the last few posts I made

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1587

wah WAH wah WAH WAH WAH

by the way
is that sarah simblet book your number one recommendation because i've been looking for a decent anatomy book for months

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1103 Location: Illinois, USA

Yeah I mean Loomis straight-up is like "This is the commonly accepted artistic/heroic figure, you'll see that realistic proportions are kind of dumpy" and so that's not exactly conducive to learning real anatomy.

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1065

yeah I like it a lot and as far as art books go it's not terribly expensive
it uses transparency overlays really well and is nicely written
no sentences like "watch how quickly the mother's hand grasps the teetering child"

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1587

looking at it on amazon, it really seems like Just The Thing

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 3599 Location: Physics Table #1.

so fucking sick of gastrodon and travis interacting. i start to want to pretty fucking hard.

Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 5693

Love, Your Third Daughter wrote:

kind of like studying "how to draw manga" books to learn how to draw

that's what i did and it hugged me up

don't ever try to learn drawing from comic books people

i can't draw a man without biceps the size of his head :(

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 3599 Location: Physics Table #1.

LLPH

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 3599 Location: Physics Table #1.

yeah so in sideways stories from wayside school there was your token "artist" student in class. she was r. fast at drawing [her name was bebe i think] and she could draw like 12 ducks in an hour. and everyone knew she was an artist. and then one day louis, the recess guy, told her that maybe she should spend Quite A While on one drawing and see what happens.

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 3599 Location: Physics Table #1.

i feel like you know what positions and basic expressions you want your people to have but don't stop there. i mean, i dont know how to "draw" the "learn2draw" way but this [which is the one i like]

could you tons more detail.

on first glance i am like oh neato.
but then i look at the hands and they are interestingly drawn but have like no details in them. just mess around. buy a fine point black pen. [i use .2-.3, .3 if i'm mostly writing and doodle on the side, .2 is viceversa]

[microns, hi-tec-cs if you're lucky, zebras, zig, foray gel in .5 is excellent imo -- not the clickytop]

should be like two bucks for one pen. basically use the pen on top of the pencilmarks to trace etc etc. and don't forget to include like little details on the hand that make them pop out.

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 3599 Location: Physics Table #1.

i uh, really dont know if that was coherent or relevant.

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1065

baron you are a ruined man

Joined: 20 Sep 2008 Posts: 266

yellowbus wrote:

yeah so in sideways stories from wayside school there was your token "artist" student in class. she was r. fast at drawing [her name was bebe i think] and she could draw like 12 ducks in an hour. and everyone knew she was an artist. and then one day louis, the recess guy, told her that maybe she should spend Quite A While on one drawing and see what happens.

it was more like 12 drawings a minute but you're right.

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1103 Location: Illinois, USA

helicopters are pretty cool

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1587

i cannot at all figure out if that is a good drawing or not
this is really perplexing

Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 3415 Location: California

it looks like a helicopter but upon further examination it looks like it was poorly made.

ysqure don't become an engineer

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:04 am

is that wing slicing into the helicopter?

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 1247 Location: elsewhere

Ch-Ch-Ch wrote:

yellowbus wrote:

yeah so in sideways stories from wayside school there was your token "artist" student in class. she was r. fast at drawing [her name was bebe i think] and she could draw like 12 ducks in an hour. and everyone knew she was an artist. and then one day louis, the recess guy, told her that maybe she should spend Quite A While on one drawing and see what happens.

it was more like 12 drawings a minute but you're right.

oh man thank you guys for reminding me of this book. these were awesome!!!

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Posts: 1247 Location: elsewhere

gastrodon wrote:

i cannot at all figure out if that is a good drawing or not
this is really perplexing

it's better than some of his earlier stuff.

so ys3, i mean....well...

i think you should keep working on portraits and shading and whatnot but then, i'm pretty biased towards portraits.

not a huge fan of the helicopter is what i am saying.

It STILL seems to me that you are struggling with the shading. if you have a piece of tissue--use it. get rid of those hatch marks (or whatever). smooth that junk out.

If you have no tissue, then use one of those fancy shading stumps. i mean, everyone has those right?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:04 pm

Just wanted to say I am pretty absolutely sure that all how to draw manga books were basically made to masturbate to.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:04 pm

Just really cannot concieve of any other possible uses.

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:05 pm

Door stop?

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:05 pm

Paperweight?

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1103 Location: Illinois, USA

Cash grab?

Anyway thanks for the advice re: poorly-constructed helicopter and unblended shading.

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1587

also for blending graphite you could use little cotton swabs

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1103 Location: Illinois, USA

so i've moved on from terrible imitations of terrible comic books to terrible imitations of terrible anime

i need to get rid of the bitterness in my life.

Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 3361

that picture looks like you started with no idea what style you wanted to draw it in and never decided