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trainwreck
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:06 pm |
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you can do it online, look http://www.trentu.ca/faculty/jjoyce/fw-3.htm
does anyone want to do this? i want to read it but i'd rather read it with other people because holy shit it's finnegan's wake |
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the saturday option
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:13 pm |
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I read the first fifty pages once. Once |
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trainwreck
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:14 pm |
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One of my high school teachers understands it. |
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the saturday option
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:16 pm |
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I've read Ulysses and Portrait and that was enough Joyce for me for life |
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:19 pm |
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oh god uh uh
p. sure I'm going to leave that till I'm 50 |
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trainwreck
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:23 pm |
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FYI, the guy I know who understands parts of it is about 40, 45. He went to St. Something's, some kind of bizarre crazy literary college for a long time, then became a monk. Then he talked with Thomas Pynchon in a bookstore on accident, and then he decided to teach high school.
He told me that he'd been looking at Finnegan's Wake for like 25 years, gradually understanding more and more of it, but still not all of it. By the time I knew him he could read and understand like 12 languages and speak at least five that I knew of.
So I am pretty sure that I won't be able to understand this, but I want to read it anyway. |
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:38 pm |
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yeah I'm pretty sure I'll need to know 12 languages when I read it and have a computer with me the whole time and take a couple years off from everything and lock myself in a room
I was thinking about reading it right after I reread portrait and ulysses this summer (get to start on that tomorrow :))))))) ) so that I could build up enough momentum
but even though I know I wouldn't understand much, I'm pretty sure I would only be able to read little, and understand less than I hoped
had to read 3 pages for school and it took me hours and I still didn't understand all the important stuff \\\\\\\: |
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trainwreck
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:49 pm |
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someone's gonna make fun of me for this, but i really think Finnegan's Wake would benefit from having a layout like the Seamus Heaney translation of Beowulf, where like one page is Finnegan's Wake and the opposite page is what the fuck everything probably means |
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:56 pm |
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here I'll make fun of you:
weak sinnen' fag |
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trainwreck
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:58 pm |
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not your best effort |
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Tom Meade
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:38 pm |
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I'll read it with you, but it'll have to be at a slow pace due to responsibilities.
I haven't even finished Ulysses yet, though, so maybe I should still be working on that. |
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Joined: 25 Jul 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:43 pm |
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Read more Stephen King instead. Desperation rendered Joyce's entire oeuvre superfluous |
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Tom Meade
Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:46 pm |
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In all sincerity I would appreciate good recommendations for horror novels, but this is probably not the place or the time. |
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the saturday option
Joined: 25 Jul 2008
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:53 pm |
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Clive Barker's Books of Blood aren't novels but they're still good |
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Tom Meade
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:55 pm |
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I remember really liking The Thief of Always and "The Hell-Bound Heart" so I will check those out! |
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dri-ft
as in, "get my"?
Joined: 15 Apr 2006
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Sun May 10, 2009 5:04 am |
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my advice to everyone is don't do this |
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Tom Meade
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Sun May 10, 2009 5:14 am |
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I figured I could cost by in the spirit of "you know I don't have any idea at all what's happening but it sure is cool" that carried me through my first reading of Naked Lunch.
This same spirit carried me pretty well through my first viewing of Naked Lunch. |
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Tjongejonge
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Sun May 10, 2009 8:10 am |
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You can read Bram Stoker's Dracula in real time here:
http://dracula-feed.blogspot.com/
And why this is so cool, I'll quote the article I read:
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| Bram Stoker’s Dracula is an epistolary novel, every letter and diary entry given a date. (And Stoker did a lot of calendar work to make sure it all fit.) Whitney Sorrow is posting the whole novel blog-style, with the entries dated a particular day posted that day. The first entry is for May 3rd, so you don’t have much catching up to do yet; the last one will be November 6th. |
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Baron von Swede
Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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Sun May 10, 2009 11:38 pm |
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i don't really like portrait, i love ulysses
nabokov hates portrait, loves ulysses, hates finnegan's wake
so i'm wary. also i don't even feel close to done with ulysses yet. this is going to be something i do in my old age i think
(one day i guess i'll stop talking about my boner for nabokov)
also 12 languages isn't nearly enough. there are sixty something in the book |
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trainwreck
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Mon May 11, 2009 4:49 am |
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more like 70 probably |
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dri-ft
as in, "get my"?
Joined: 15 Apr 2006
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Thu May 14, 2009 2:09 pm |
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or probably even 80 imo |
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paperclipsalad
Joined: 10 Apr 2009
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Location: t dot
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Thu May 14, 2009 7:00 pm |
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why would you guys want to torture yourselves like this |
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