Like, whatever, you know?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:11 pm

I feel kind of silly now about that long post above! Mr Klaw probably has some pretty good response, so I'll let him have the last word. From now on, whenver I disagree with him I think I'm just going to go to the "acting stupid thread" over in META and do some primal screaming posts. I mean, I don't want to have to debate that guy every time I disagree with him because: (a) I seem to disagree with him a lot these days, and (b) he is better at debating than me, I think.

Also, are parsnips any good? I've never tried them, but the descriptions make them sound like maybe they'd be okay. Turnips are decent, but nothing to do the Charleston about. They're like really mild radishes that look like potatoes. I mean, what's the point?

SORRY GUYS I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE I STEAMED UP A WHOLE POT OF THEM

Out-Talled Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 4580

Parsnips are best roasted! They are very sweet, so it is probably not a good idea to serve them in the same meal as turnip. Mashed potato is a much better combo.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:00 pm

Commander Steve Carey wrote:

I'm pretty sure I'm the universal donor one, whatever that is

Remember, O is the universal dOnOr!

Except that's not technically true anymore because they've found new blood in a drawer or something that can't take O. Still, it's pretty valuable blood, so watch your back!

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:20 pm

Boorishly P. Foundry wrote:

I feel kind of silly now about that long post above! Mr Klaw probably has some pretty good response, so I'll let him have the last word. From now on, whenver I disagree with him I think I'm just going to go to the "acting stupid thread" over in META and do some primal screaming posts. I mean, I don't want to have to debate that guy every time I disagree with him because: (a) I seem to disagree with him a lot these days, and (b) he is better at debating than me, I think.

No, Boorishly, don't feel silly. You're mostly right. I honestly don't know that much about slam poetry, but my point is really just that words need to have actual definitions. You've said repeatedly that all opinions don't have equal merit; I wholeheartedly agree with this, and it's in the same vein that I say art is not completely subjective. By this I mean that something shouldn't be a poem just because the person who wrote it said it is. For language to be at all useful, words have to have some definition (even if it can be somewhat hazy); to say that what constitutes poetry is up to anyone who cares to throw some lines on the page is tantamount to saying the word poetry is meaningless. Anyway, my point was basically that there were just no poetic devices I could find in that poem, other than that it was presented in stanzas.

In any case, keep disagreeing with me if you want to! So far I think you've mostly been right in our disagreements and it is a good, humbling experience. Also, I think some of our disagreements stem from the way I talk. I say things fairly absolutely ("this isn't a poem") because I figure people know that I'm only voicing my opinion! I mean, on a lot of subjects anything I say can't be anything other than an opinion, so logically I must mean that what I'm saying is my opinion. I realize, though, that people aren't always logical and often think their opinions are facts. I talk a lot though, and I don't want to waste time putting disclaimers on everything I say (and even when I do sometimes apparently they're not well received! see also: relative IQs of women and men). Furthermore, if I come off as better at debates than you, it is probably just my rabid-weasel-forum-attack style that makes it seem so.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:12 pm

Oh great! Now I look like a complete jerk because you're being so nice! Seriously though, thanks for understanding, man. My response to your first post should have been something like, "I don't know, man! I can kind of see how it might be poetry!" You're right that I am pretty much just overreacting to your style of argument. The things you say are okay by me, even if I disagree! I just keep taking the way you say them too seriously!

Plus, I feel like I've lost a lot of debates to you over the past few days. So this time I was like, "Dammit, man! I am going to WIN this one if it kills me."

Anyway, we are not arch enemies. We just have mostly incompatible debating styles!

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:49 pm

I think I'm B- or B+. Either way, it reflects my average marks in school!

Timefishblue: not doing homework since 2003.

Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 1231 Location: Sweden

Boorishly P. Foundry wrote:

Turnips are decent, but nothing to do the Charleston about. They're like really mild radishes that look like potatoes. I mean, what's the point?

You dissin swedes, B-Man? That whatcha be doin?

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 568 Location: Canada (BC-Style!)

John wrote:

Parsnips are best roasted! They are very sweet, so it is probably not a good idea to serve them in the same meal as turnip. Mashed potato is a much better combo.

John, I'm sorry. We can debate whether or not Klaw can designate poetical status, but as a british person, you cannot give us any advice on food.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:29 am

Burn on the brits! You roastbeefs!

Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 1231 Location: Sweden

Tyrannosaurus Bob wrote:

John, I'm sorry. We can debate whether or not Klaw can designate poetical status, but as a british person, you cannot give us any advice on food.

Ain't nothing could hold a stick to the mighty Canadian cuisine. What is that, btw? Maple syrup?

Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 568 Location: Canada (BC-Style!)

and uh, bacon.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:29 am

hot damn, i think this is my new favorite thread. two reasons: steve's idea and the resultant poems = exactly suited to my specific sense of humour. and then also, i just love it when i present an argument and my man (er...nominal archnemisis) klaw proceeds to support it for me. we frickin TAG-TEAMED YOU.

also

Lavatory Logorrhea
by timmy x.

Good lord,
the door is closed
the sounds and sometimes odors
emanating from within
clearly indicate
that you are currently disposed

but so obdurate,
you insist
on continuing our conversation
while you're on the crapper.

just like an american.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:41 am

also, as for the debate: what i was saying was basically that i think it would work better as prose than as a poem.

klaw took that to the next level and stated it as absolute fact, but we can forgive him, because that's just how klaw rolls.

klaw is my panzerkardinal.

Christmas came early Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 9225

WHAT
Ever since I was 17
I have given you almost a gallon
of my blood

You gave me a card that said
A positive. A card!
So why are you calling me now

To say that you think my blood type
is something else. I'm not
Going to the hospital to give another
3 tubes. I've got exams!

It's not my fault if you gave the wrong
blood type to people because
4 years ago there was a testing/labelling
mishap.

Is it?

I Disagree
Just because lots of people
write slam poetry
doesn't mean it is a legitimate art form.

Lots of people poop.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:17 am

Can't U See I'm Watching a Sporting Match?
by Steve Carey

Can't u see I'm watching the sporting match?

I understand
That u want to ask
Me open-ended questions
About your feelings

Can't u see I'm watching the sporting match?

But the sporting match
Gives me catharsis
I can let go of my
Primal emotions, safely

Can't u see I'm watching the sporting match?

No, I don't know
Or care which color
Tiles we use in
The bathroom

Can't u see I'm watching the sporting match?

I am engaging
My competitive instincts
In a way that I cannot
As Assistant Regional Manager

Can't u see I'm watching the sporting match?

Don't u understand,
Real communication
Between the sexes
Will never happen

While I am watching the sporting match.

Out-Talled Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 4580

Timefishblue wrote:

Burn on the brits! You roastbeefs!

Roast beef is pretty tasty!

T-Rex blushing

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:58 am

JERK

get your finger
out of my ear
and help me take off
the things
you have glued
so rudely
to my flesh.

Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 1231 Location: Sweden

Would It Kill You Not To Make All That Intentional Noise
With The Trash Cans Extremely Early In The Morning?
by mugabe

A question have I, without aim to provoke
(just see me as someone affected):
If trash were collected, and no one awoke,
would the trash still have been collected?

Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 974

The Coffee That I'm Drinking Is A Bit Too Hot
by Chris Capps

The steam is not the problem,
But rather,
The reaction of my tastebuds!

I love how you taste,
But right now, you're a bit too much for me too handle.

Too bad I get withdrawls without you.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:51 am

Bruce Kelly

They say:
"No man is an island."

I guess that is true.

I put bricks in your stomach,
just to be sure.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:06 am

That was almost a Comeau-ism, DL.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:08 am

Fo' shizzle!

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:32 am

IMPRESSED

holy christings, do
you write for a
softer world? I'd swear
that you
do.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:13 pm

seriously, new favorite thread.

Take A Picture It'll Last Longer
by timmy x.

sometimes i wonder
if it's a government mandate
that everyone
look at me that way

with my sweat
and tears
and with my blood
i have given so much to society

so why is society
always giving me
the evil eye?

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:31 pm

I love these poems, people!

Christmas came early Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 9225

Society, Upon Reading the Lamentations of Raziel
Sorry
It's just that
You have got something

in
your teeth

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:38 pm

Worf's Lament

I have told you
too many times,
you cheap bastards.

that a merry man
I am not.

Christmas came early Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 9225

I Think He Sherwood
Jean-Luc Picard
Dressed as Robin Hood

Schoolin'
Motherfuckers
Nottingham Style

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:43 pm

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE ALWAYS SAYING I'M NOT PUNKROCK COS I'M SO PUNKROCK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW PUNKROCK I AM

SHIT I'M SO PUNKROCK
I THREW UP LIKE
MAYBE FIFTY TIMES
OR MORE LAST NIGHT
WITH LITTLE-KNOWN
RAMONES LPs
PLAYING ON THE OLD SCHOOL STEREO I STOLE FROM MY PARENTS
COS THAT'S HOW PUNKROCK I AM

SHIT I'M SO PUNKROCK
I SPENT PROBABLY
AN HOUR
DOING MY HAIR IN ALL THESE SPIKES
LIKE SERIOUSLY, AN HOUR.

i-i hope you like it

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:54 pm

My Mom Says I'm Cool
A poem by The Famous Mr. Klaw

Actually, I lied.
My mom doesn't
even say I'm cool.

She calls me,
"dorkahoid."